I got mine approximatley 2 months ago for X-Mas... from my MOTHER.. but anywho, i highly would recommend these for someone who wants a more "simple" goth look as i do.. the Gravel-23's were looking pretty nice to me, but I soon realized they looked a bit too flashy for me. So again, if you want something that just says "I'm here! Dont mess with me. or, Leave me alone!", i HIGHLY recomend these Gravel-20's. The only real problems with them that I've encountered is that they start to flake and crease around the ankle line. They also can be very uncomfortable if you wear loose pants or lace them up too tight.. which leads to my last complaint... They take FOREVER to get on and off. it takes me approx. 14minute sto get on, and 5 or 6 to get off...

Adore these boots. Perfect fit, solid construction and very neato. Delivery was a bit late but the boots themselves are wonderful. Highly recommend if you want something very durable while maintaining much "rivitness". Just hope you don't mind taking 10 minutes to get in and out of them though.